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valmic
valmic - 10/1/2023, 8:30 PM
All of those shows should have had 4 seasons, including smallville.
dracula
dracula - 10/1/2023, 8:46 PM
@micvalpro - id go with 5, 5 season with around 100 episodes is a good run

Especially Smallville, the story was basically over at season 5, johnathan's death should have been the start of that end. After that it just became a superman show, they just refused to give him a costume or let him fly.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 10/1/2023, 9:41 PM
@micvalpro - Why would Smallville finish when he graduated high school? There was tons of great Smallville after that - John Kent’s death, Lex vs Clark, most of seasons 9 and 10, etc
valmic
valmic - 10/1/2023, 10:55 PM
@dracula - I agree
dracula
dracula - 10/1/2023, 11:15 PM
@Nightwing1015 - season 9 is great, but at that point they are just making a superman show

Story of him becoming superman is basically complete after season 5, they just held off on giving him a suit

Season 10……man they should have just stuck with Zod (which was the original plan, the actor signed for 2 seasons but they sped up the plot in case they didnt get season 10)

They obviously could not pull off Darkseid and the most polarizing series finale until how i met your mother
DevilsDreams
DevilsDreams - 10/2/2023, 4:06 AM
@dracula - Still feel so cheated over the ending of that... 10 seasons and all we get is a tiny cgi figure of Superman suited up...

Then they went and did the multiverse thing and had him having given up his powers... my other half said "so they just waisted our time then?"
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 10/2/2023, 8:11 AM
@dracula - Yh I know - but it’s a good Superman show so I’m all for it.

Finale was ok - but yeah they shouldn’t have done Darkseid.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 10/1/2023, 8:32 PM
Wow really? Never would’ve thought the shoe that used a five year flashback with each season covering 1 year was only supposed to be 5 seasons
dracula
dracula - 10/1/2023, 8:34 PM
yeah thats obvious.

Kind of wish it did.

You would still have the disaster that was Arrow season 4 (unless Arrow remained stand alone and the superficial attempts to emulate Flash didn't happen) but you would have a stronger show, in fact Season 5 is the best season of the series.

Season 6 was a major mixed bag with some truly great moments

Like the whole arrow civil war thing, could work and has its moments but was so dumb how long it took them to commit.

How many times after the break up did they work together only for the b team to say, "this means nothing, we are on our own"

Diggle's fight with Oliver was really well done, but the build up to it is terrible.

A lot of the good stuff in that season had really stupid plotting to get there, a majority of it relies on blaming Oliver for everything and acting as if nobody else did anything wrong and acting like none of his actions were warranted.

Season 7 had a very strong start with the prison arc, its one of Arrow's best stories, cool story, intro to Emiko was good, as was the changes in star city.

Second half is all down hill outside of the crossover, the documentary episode and the episode that brought back Stanley Dover. Seriously hard to get invested when they can't decide on big bad. First Diaz, then Dante, then Emiko, then some random chick that shows up for one scene, just so someone can be in charge when Emiko switches sides.

Season 8 was good fan service
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 10/1/2023, 10:27 PM
That was a continuous issue with a lot of the CW shows. The shows just dragged to the point you could tell the writing just came off as lazy.
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 10/1/2023, 11:00 PM
I'm glad Arrow lasted as long as it did.
Timerider
Timerider - 10/2/2023, 1:49 AM
It would have been a whole lot better if it had been a movie, much like Batman Begins, same style, bigger budget and less soap opera cw style. More realism and darker, it should have went. I loved the first season, much darker and psychological.
LeonNova
LeonNova - 10/2/2023, 6:31 AM
Both Arrow and Flash ran on longer than they needed to. Flash especially was borderline self-parody by its final season.
Dartanian300
Dartanian300 - 10/2/2023, 6:39 AM
Guess people have forgotten (it has been a while) but this was out in the open back in the early days of the show. I don’t remember when exactly but they talked about how the show would end with season 5 (if it got that far). I was surprised when it didn’t.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 10/2/2023, 7:00 AM
There are 2 things I don’t care about:

1: Stephen Amell

2: Arrow

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